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Offline Skids

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2015+ Heated Grips issue
on: December 02, 2016, 11:58:35 AM
My recently purchased 2015 model 800X has an issue with the heated grips in that, basically, they don't. Heat that is. At least nowhere near enough. I can barely feel the heat once cruising, even on the top setting, level 5.
 
I've been back to my dealer, who are being very proactive in trying to sort this. They tried a replacement control unit....no difference. They've now been speaking to Honda UK as their own demo bike has the same issue. Honda state that after leaving the bike at idle for 5 minutes with the grips on level 5, they should be approx 40 deg C. The demo bike, and mine, are barely reaching 20 deg C and of course, as soon as you start moving, that temp drops markedly. Honda UK have authorised my dealer to completely replace the heated grips on their demo bike, wiring and everything to see if that cures it. If it does, they'll do mine.
 
Curiously, my dealer has had a notice from Honda UK that they are having the same issues on the new Africa Twin and that they've narrowed it down to the aluminium handlebars leaching the heat away. Older/other bikes use steel bars that don't leach to the same extent. Despite my dealer pointing out that this is probably the issue on the Cr, Honda UK say they haven't had enough complaints from customers to warrant any further action on the Cr.
 
So if there's any UK Cr owners, probably 15/16 model only, who think their heated grips are not producing enough heat (my OEM VFR1200F ones are ridiculously hot on their top setting), please complain to your local Honda dealer and maybe we can kick Honda into doing something a bit more realistic about this rather than just replace the grips with others that will most likely suffer from exactly the same issue.
 
Cheers.  :031:
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08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
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Offline Justin800x

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #1 on: December 03, 2016, 02:31:18 AM
Mine definitely don't get to 40deg that I can feel but as I only got my bike as the temp was warming up here is Australia it hasn't  been something I have worried about yet. I also have foam covers on my handles to increase diametre so figured that may have something to do with it but I'll keep an eye on it.
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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #2 on: December 03, 2016, 12:08:08 PM
I'm not convinced about the aluminium bars being the issue.  If  this was the case then I'd expect that the LHS would run cool but the RHS would remain hot owing to the fact the the RHS sits on top of the throttle tube which is almost certainly plastic and thus insulated from the metal bar tube.

I'll be booking mine in for its one-year service immenantly so I'll get the dealer to look into it when it goes in for that.

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 08:34:16 AM
*Originally Posted by Throbber [+]
I'm not convinced about the aluminium bars being the issue.  If  this was the case then I'd expect that the LHS would run cool but the RHS would remain hot owing to the fact the the RHS sits on top of the throttle tube which is almost certainly plastic and thus insulated from the metal bar tube.

I'll be booking mine in for its one-year service immenantly so I'll get the dealer to look into it when it goes in for that.

I don't know myself, but if Honda have already decided that the same/similar bars on the new Africa Twin are causing the issue, then why shouldn't it be the same for the Cr? I can't imagine the 2 bar/grip designs being massively different.
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #4 on: December 06, 2016, 06:01:43 PM
Funny thing is mine are just right on setting 4 in the current weather, (just above freezing) and on number 5 are too hot, so they seem to be fine for me. Admittedly not as hot as some others I've used, but they don't need to be for me, I have commonly found others to be too hot, for instance I used to have my Pan European OE grips on number 2, I don't like a burning heat, just gentle.

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
Got a call from my dealer today; they've fitted a new, uprated controller and it appears to work ok so they've requested another for my bike.

Apparently, they are taking a long time because of the demand.  :015:
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
*Originally Posted by Skids [+]
Got a call from my dealer today; they've fitted a new, uprated controller and it appears to work ok so they've requested another for my bike.

Apparently, they are taking a long time because of the demand.  :015:

Thanks for the update.  I think I'll get mine checked out to see if I have the same issue - the grips don't seems as hot as they should be.
Cheers, Jon

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 07:28:08 PM
Demand must be low cos she's booked in for next Mon 30th.

Just in time for me to head to New Zealand for a month.  :156:
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 08:08:20 AM
New grips fitted but I cannot spot a difference.  :138:

After a 45 minute ride with the grips on their hottest setting in 5 degrees OAT, with the engine still running, gloves off, I would say the grips were lukewarm at best. Luckily, the Barkbusters I fitted appear to be doing a better job.

The Africa Twin issue appears more likely the problem than faulty grip controllers though I wonder if Honda will see it that way.
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: 2015+ Heated Grips issue
Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Back from my hols, dealer rings and says Honda claim they have a solution imminent.

I shan't hold my breath but am interested in what they call a solution.
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

 



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