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Online Skids

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Major Service
on: January 05, 2018, 06:43:50 PM
Took the Crossrunner in for her 16k service today.  She's just out of warranty so I would normally attempt the majority of it myself but I took out a servicing agreement when I bought it and decided to let the dealer do this service. I intend to service the bike myself from now on (with a little help from a friend).

Mildly concerning is that after 16k miles, the front brake pads are 80% worn. I don't use the front brake much, rather use the gearbox and rear brake to control slowing, with the front generally lightly applied for the final bit of slowing. For a non-CBS bike, that amount of wear is worrying.  :003:

Sadly, they were unable to complete the service today, so I brought the loan bike home which was a bit of an ordeal on the A1 as it is an unfaired CB500F which is quite difficult to hold on to at 70mph!   :005:
Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 06:46:16 PM by Skids
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: Major Service
Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 09:57:40 AM
*Originally Posted by Skids [+]
Mildly concerning is that after 16k miles, the front brake pads are 80% worn. I don't use the front brake much, rather use the gearbox and rear brake to control slowing, with the front generally lightly applied for the final bit of slowing. For a non-CBS bike, that amount of wear is worrying.  :003:
Back in November, at around 12k miles, I noticed that I'd hit 100% wear on one of the front brake pads, and about 95% on another. Whilst replacing them I found that one pad on each caliper had seized, leaving the entire braking effort to the other pad, hence causing excessive wear.  :005:

Turned out that my pad inspection was based on the assumption that both pads were wearing at the same rate, largely because I find it very difficult to see the inner pad by squinting along the disc, even with a torch. So I'd seen plenty of life left in a pad that wasn't being used at all.

On a positive note, with new pads, I had to re-learn graceful and sensitive use of the brake lever, to avoid looking like a total n00b with powerful brakes and headbutting the handlebar every time I drew to a stop.  :087:

All that said, I'm not overly reliant on the front brake for stopping either.. I do use the engine a lot, and always combine the front and rear when coming to a stop, but perhaps I'm not avoiding the front brake as much as you say!

Having not done all that many miles on a regular basis for quite a few years, I can barely recall how many miles I'd expect from a set of front pads, but it seems clear that 12k was too few under normal circumstances, for this bike.
Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 10:01:09 AM by v8guy
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Re: Major Service
Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 10:32:33 AM

I was warned at my 8000 mile service that the front pads were getting down and now at 11,000 and rechecking them I find they are still OK for now, though I do have replacements in the Garage ready for when they do need replacing.

Strange how everybody's riding style varies so much as I rarely use the rear brake, relying on the front brake and engine braking almost entirely other than the odd time when I feel the rear would help.

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Re: Major Service
Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 10:32:58 AM
Removed my brake calipers yesterday to give them the once over and a good clean  and the front pads have 2 mill left on them and the rear 1 mill and that is after 10000 miles . Can't say Im unhappy with that . As I have a large trip coming up in May I have ordered new pads for front and back from Amazon , All sintered and all for under a hundred quid  . I changed the brake fluid too after a years use and it was definitely darker than it should be  so happy I did that . When I was on the Stelvio pass last year My back brake boiled without warning and completely disappeared so I was a bit concerned if any damage had been done but it was just a case of fresh fluid and new pads when they get here and its all good to go

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Re: Major Service
Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 10:42:34 AM
Under a £100 for a full set of pads!!!! I bought two pairs of EBC "HH" sintered Front pads for the CR as I found these work well on my Blackbird and they cost just over £40.00 including P&P. I'm off to the Stelvio and other Passes in June, hope you have a good trip wherever it is you are going.
Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 11:03:15 AM by JohnG

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Re: Major Service
Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 11:40:03 AM
Dealer has fitted new front EBC-HH sintered pads, the same as I have used for the last 200k miles or so on all my bikes once the OEM have worn out. Cost less than £25 a set after the discount they gave me. They're just over £28 from EBC Direct.

I did the Stelvio a few years ago on my 08 VFR with no brake issues. Mind you, we went UP the pass rather than down it.  :156: :008:
Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 11:43:28 AM by Skids
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: Major Service
Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 11:43:43 AM
I forgot to mention that list also included 4L of castrol  and an air filter and a funnel so yeh youre about right on the price . Stelvio is def worth a look but beware of mad Italians hell bent on getting up and down it at 80 miles an hour and expecting you to get out of the way . I was doing between 30-35 coming down as I was behind a car and a third of the way down I thought I had lost my rear brake pads somewhere !! Brake just boiled and failed without warning and I was a little concerned that the front was then going to do the same ...Half an hour later ,the brake had cooled and was working perfectly. Have fun man , my trip is a bit further round this year

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Re: Major Service
Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 11:47:38 AM
*Originally Posted by Skids [+]
Dealer has fitted new front EBC-HH sintered pads, the same as I have used for the last 200k miles or so on all my bikes once the OEM have worn out. Cost less than £25 a set after the discount they gave me. They're just over £28 from EBC Direct.

I did the Stelvio a few years ago on my 08 VFR with no brake issues. Mind you, we went UP the pass rather than down it.  :156: :008:

I think I used Sportsbike Shop as EBC wanted about £56 for the two pairs against just over £40 from Sportsbike Shop.

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Re: Major Service
Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 06:55:50 AM
*Originally Posted by JohnG [+]
I think I used Sportsbike Shop as EBC wanted about £56 for the two pairs against just over £40 from Sportsbike Shop.

That's a very good price.  :028:  Dealer charged me £21 each in the end.

Despite my return journey yesterday late pm being down the A1 from Peterborough, what a fabulous feeling to get back on the X after 100+ miles on the loaner CB500F. Don't get me wrong, it's a great little bike, but trying to hang on at cruise speed for all those miles was hard work.

Then I jumped back on the X and it hit me with such a stark contrast how good the VFR is. Everything is just right, in the right place and works so well. A really comfy riding position, mirrors that do their job fully, braking/handling that is so neutral, controllable and stable and a fairing that works even at slightly above the legal limit!  :007: 

I love the Crossrunner, easily the best 800 VFR I've owned.  :419:
Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 06:58:42 AM by Skids
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: Major Service
Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 09:06:00 AM

Hi Skids,

Have to agree with you 100%, my Dealer loaned me a CB500 when my CR was in for its 8000 mile Service - felt like a toy, though grateful not having to wait while they did the Service.

 



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