Nigel Q regarding the versys it's really comfy and a great place to be ,however on the ones I tested I had a irritating vibration at 3200rpm in the bars and pegs which gave me numbing after an hour or so .This was not expected ,but it was smooth everywhere else .Not as frugal on the fuel either .They turn very easily and was a pleasure in that respect but not as composed over rough surfaces as the Honda .The seat height is high and I would have needed lowering links .I looked at a few and found a year old one to test but that had a lot more corrosion than I expected .I looked at many more and found the finish not as lasting either this then sent me back to the Honda . I know hondas finish especially it's fasteners has gone down but plenty of acf50 and the Honda will fare better I believe.I tried tracers and bmws multistrads etc but the Honda felt better overall .