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Offline Skids

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My 2018 Suspension
on: November 22, 2020, 05:39:59 PM
I bought my 2018 Crossie in Oct 19 and have done nearly 10k miles on her since then, commuting my 104 miles a day up and down the A1, for which she is perfect.

I therefore don't get to go x-country around the twisties very often and when I do,  I find I can cope with the handling.

Popped out to clean her today and decided to stiffen the suspension slightly and see how different if felt. I went to adjust the rear shock and saw that I couldn't access the adjuster as the shock arm plate on the LHS was in the way. I had a look at the Owners Manual and Service Manual (for an 800F) and they both show the shock arm plate in a different position to mine. It seems as though mine has been rotated, perhaps to lower the seat height a little.

The Service Manual states that the stamp should be facing up with the arrow forward yet mine is pointing downwards, but the SM is for an 800F and may not be the same as the 800X. The 800X Owners Manual only shows a poor drawing so difficult to tell.

Could anybody go look, maybe take a photo of their own 15+ Crossie or at least confirm my suspicions are correct before I rotate the 2 plates back the way I think they should be?



800X Owners Manual

800F Service Manual

98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #1 on: November 22, 2020, 05:57:24 PM
Check!
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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 06:05:42 PM
*Originally Posted by voodoo [+]
Check!

My plates have been rotated?

Just checking.  :002:
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #3 on: November 22, 2020, 06:16:11 PM
My plates have the numbers on the top side as per manual, so yours seem to be rotated. Why, I wonder.
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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 06:44:34 PM
*Originally Posted by voodoo [+]
My plates have the numbers on the top side as per manual, so yours seem to be rotated. Why, I wonder.

I'm thinking the previous owner wanted to lower the suspension a little. I've never heard of rotating the plates before though.

https://www.honda-crossrunner.com/index.php/topic,2254.msg14960.html#msg14960
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #5 on: November 24, 2020, 07:18:59 AM
Hello Skids,

thats a picture of my 2015 on centre stand. No modifications or changes were made on the bike.

https://i.imgur.com/seDPDhF.jpg

Lars
Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 07:22:08 AM by Lars

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #6 on: November 24, 2020, 08:37:33 AM
*Originally Posted by voodoo [+]
My plates have the numbers on the top side as per manual, so yours seem to be rotated. Why, I wonder.
Yep, my 2017 is the same as the manual too.
Is there any possibility of reaching out the the PO to find out why ?

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #7 on: November 24, 2020, 11:16:22 AM
Thanks all.

Consensus is the plates have been rotated by the PO, presumably to lower the seat height as little.

I shall be returning them to OEM at the weekend (or over the Xmas break) and see if I can feel the difference.

Thanks again.  :031:
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #8 on: November 24, 2020, 04:42:05 PM
From what I can find thru the interweb regarding rotating the plates it's main reason is for lowering the seat height cheaply :164:
Obviously you can buy the ready made plates that have been engineered to alter to ratio of the shock and arc of the swing arm.

The thing I came across was that a number of people reported that when they lowered the suspension the intial couple of inches of movement felt considerable softer than before the change...this is what I found when I changed the plates back to standard,
the shock seemed much stiffer as if it was aftermarket compared to the clapped unit I thought I had bought the bike with :027:

It'll be interesting to hear what your findings are.

Stay safe!

JT :015:
 

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Re: My 2018 Suspension
Reply #9 on: November 24, 2020, 06:22:46 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonnyteabag [+]
From what I can find thru the interweb regarding rotating the plates it's main reason is for lowering the seat height cheaply :164:
Obviously you can buy the ready made plates that have been engineered to alter to ratio of the shock and arc of the swing arm.

The thing I came across was that a number of people reported that when they lowered the suspension the intial couple of inches of movement felt considerable softer than before the change...this is what I found when I changed the plates back to standard,
the shock seemed much stiffer as if it was aftermarket compared to the clapped unit I thought I had bought the bike with :027:

It'll be interesting to hear what your findings are.

Stay safe!

JT :015:

That chimes with my experience. Bike definitely felt softer when I bought it and I thought the seat height was lower but nothing looked amiss (I should have looked closer  :138:). Over the last year/10k miles, I've gotten used to it but would now like to stiffen it up a little.
98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles (sold)
08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles (sold)
14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (sold)
18 VFR800X - 9,000 miles