Author Topic: New Honda NT1100 (Read 4092 times)

Beetlejuice · **on:** August 24, 2021, 01:37:46 PM

Wished this would have the V4 in it but doesn't look like it ...

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/honda-nt1100-confirmed/

Skids · **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2021, 02:52:47 PM

Why, why, why, oh why?

Lars · **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2021, 03:31:32 PM

well, it hurts me deeply to state the obvious but its based on the AT 2 cylinder engine so the existing and proven platform just needs a bit tuning and modification here and there and you have got a "new" engine which is a "cost effective" solution.

versus

our existing V4 engine is from the early 2000s ( correct me if I am wrong ) so 20 years old. you would have to completely redesign it get it up to par and exceed the current requirements be it power and/or environmental. it would also have to compete with other V4 sports tourers and tourers in its league ( Ducati BMW Kawasaki.. anyone else have V4 or at least a good inline 4 ? ) It would have to absolutely blow that competition out of the water to be successful while, being priced somewhere in the price range of the competition. also the bike that belongs to that engine would have to be a new design from the ground up.
A bike like that would not sell to the community that demands everything for less than 10k it would definitely be in the "premium" segment. Would that sell well ? I don't know, it most definitely is a risk for Honda.
I can tell you personally, if a new V4 Crosswhatever came out today and it is not completely botched I would buy it immediately my dealer would get one call that goes something along the line of "red - travel edition - money is already transferred - when is the delivery".
I have always wondered how alone or not I am with that attitude.

I have just gotten back from a trip through Austria and to Croatia. That ride in all the different terrain once again showed me that my current VFR800x is the perfect bike for me. I am not willed to substitute it with another bike that is in any way shape or form less "perfect". I have toured the Africa Twin, a 2 cylinder for me is out of the question it is utterly lacking the dynamics that I am used to now.

So I guess the only thing left for me is to wait and hope Honda will find the balls to create the best V4 ever - maybe even the last V4 ever before we all "ascent" into the electric age ( shudder )
My bike is now closing to its 90k mark and with the proper maintenance I sincerely hope that this can at least be doubled.
I will now go to the garage hug my bike and tell it to never change, thank you.

Lars

Crosspurpose · **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2021, 05:38:27 PM

I think that is a good assessment. I intend to hang on to my Crossrunner as long as I can. Eventually it’ll become too heavy to manhandle, but so would the new one so there’s little to be gained. To be fair, if the new one does look like that it’ll be the best of the three with the twin engine. BTW had the AT been a V twin like the original I’d probably have bought one.

Corringdon · **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2021, 05:40:06 PM

Poignant epitaph, Lars. At least there are many of us who own and, hopefully, will continue to own one of the best motorcycles ever produced.

Newbs1ok · **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2021, 09:50:42 PM

Well I suppose that’s called evolution 😱

I find it sad that Honda has dropped the VFR especially as Ducati has just brought out the V4 Multistrada

We will just need to keep hold of our babies and fettle them

Corringdon · **Reply #6 on:** August 26, 2021, 08:52:27 AM

Honda must have taken into account the forthcoming demise in the use of fossil fuelled vehicles and based the power plants of new models on their current proven stock like the 750 and 1000cc parallel twins. Triumph, for example, use their parallel twin engine in many different classes of motorcycle. Other manufacturers are doing the same.