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    Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    on: October 28, 2021, 10:58:11 pm
    October 28, 2021, 10:58:11 pm
    Having just sold my BMW R1200 GS with only approx six thousand miles on the clock, mainly because they are over blown bits of expensive kit and I did not fancy loosing my hard earned on future repairs.  When you look at the basic chassis material on the CR compared to the GS you would be forgiven looking at each bike the less expensive was the BW, mainly steel and painted lower cost alloy on the driveshaft. Where as the CR has the original fully alloy swing arm and chassis. Also the CR has better switch gear than the flimsy stuff BMW provide. IMHO the CR's engine is a classier bit of kit and butter cream smooth. Yes the BM can cover ground quickly but so can the CR, particularly if you spend a reasonable amount of upgrading the suspension.

    I replaced the GS with another over engineered bike a Yamaha FJR 1300 Mk II, same quality in the chassis material as the CR and quality components all round, again has had a suspension upgrade but in reality a small investment in a great bike. Sadly these mega built bikes are no longer and I for one will miss them. |I am more impressed with their build quality than some IMU unit or TFT screen.They both look well next to my mint Pan Euro ST 1300 2002 with 12000 miles on.  Style over substance comes to mind when viewing the BM's and more of the later stuff from all the makers.
     
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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #1 on: October 29, 2021, 08:25:23 am
    October 29, 2021, 08:25:23 am
     :003: Many folk will mourn the passing of the CR and the V4 engine, Jack. It always amazes me that the GS is always top of the best sellers list despite BMW's sad reliability record on its later machines, plus the eye watering parts and service costs. Let's hope the NT1100, although a sports/tourer in reality, will be a reasonable replacement for the CR although I suspect CR owners will try to hang on to their bikes for as long as possible.
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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #2 on: October 29, 2021, 01:54:26 pm
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    Agree the new NVT may be a decent choice but the twin is not the sublime V 4. Perhaps the new Sports Tourer Suzy may make a more intersting choice, particularly as the NVT will not be shaft drive.

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    Reply #3 on: October 29, 2021, 02:56:00 pm
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    Honda's twin is a well refined lump but, as you say, it's not as sublime as the V4. The Suzy is also not a shaft drive.
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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #4 on: October 29, 2021, 04:00:03 pm
    October 29, 2021, 04:00:03 pm
    *Originally Posted by Corringdon [+]
    Honda's twin is a well refined lump but, as you say, it's not as sublime as the V4. The Suzy is also not a shaft drive.

    Then neither is the Crossie and we all love her.

    It's the overall package; build quality, character, reliability, ease of maintenance, brakes/suspension/handling....where do you stop?

    I'll certainly take a look at the Suzy, maybe even get a test ride alongside the NT1100 and then compare them with both the 800X and the 1200F.
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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #5 on: October 29, 2021, 04:34:29 pm
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    IL4's I really don't like, so no suzy for me.

    As for the nt1100, I think it suits me perfect ergonomically. The engine I am not shure about, I didn't really like the Africa Twin 1000. Maybe the 1100 has a bit more character?
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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #6 on: October 30, 2021, 11:49:51 am
    October 30, 2021, 11:49:51 am
    As a follow up, not going to motorcycle live this year, all the bikes from all makes look unintersting to me. I suppose if I was a "Hipster" and posed around a bit in my open face helmet and liked poddling around town I would fit in but I don't https://www.honda-crossrunner.com/Smileys/crossrunner_light/046.gif

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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #7 on: October 31, 2021, 07:26:23 am
    October 31, 2021, 07:26:23 am
    I've said it before there are no bikes available these days where I can justify the cost to part with the cr thanks to Euro5. Not in the 225kg /110hp sport touring range anyway. A mate purchased a new GS1200 same time I got my new 2015cr. The GS spent eleven months of the three years he owned it at the dealers trying to get warranty work done on the drive line & gear box failures. He rides like a grandmother, I ride the v-tec hard over long distances and It's never missed a beat with just the basic maintenance. 

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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #8 on: October 31, 2021, 12:08:24 pm
    October 31, 2021, 12:08:24 pm
    Haddo, Ride like a granny nice one, but no doubt your mate still likes his/her bikes. I spent more on one BMW K1200 RS over and above regualr servicing costs on 3 clutches. Cost a fortune to sort north of £3000.00 all in and that was some time back. Since then I have had a K1300 GT that chewed its drive gear, ate two full handle bar switch assembly's All done by extended warranty. If I add up the damage to wallet I have spent more on 3 BM's on major repairs than all my Jap Bikes and  different cars numbering into the 25 plus mark.




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    Re: Crossrunner Last of a quality breed
    Reply #9 on: October 31, 2021, 01:05:32 pm
    October 31, 2021, 01:05:32 pm
    Oh look, there is one of my previous beemers. After it's second clutch fail.....



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