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    AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    on: March 14, 2022, 02:44:55 pm
    March 14, 2022, 02:44:55 pm
    Does anyone have experience of changing an air filter on the 2017/18 model year with the silver forks & adjustable screen?

    Having done lots of research the options seem to be: -
    1. Hiflo HFA1801 at £14.99 - seems to be some inconsistency as to whether this will fit a 2017 on model
    2. K&N HA8098 at £47.99 - usual K&N washable and reusable filter
    3. Honda Part at £43.64 - genuine Honda but not reusable.

    If anyone can shed any light on whether the Hiflo HFA1801 will fit a 2017 bike or if anyone has experience of the K&N please can you post up & let me know.

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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #1 on: March 14, 2022, 07:03:32 pm
    March 14, 2022, 07:03:32 pm
    I'm afraid I can't help you because I will always fit genuine Honda where I can.

    To my mind, an air filter is there to filter out damaging particles in the air. If you increase the throughflow in order to increase power, then you must have larger holes. Larger holes = larger particles getting through to the engine. Why would you do that? There are far better ways to increase power output.

    Of course, YMMV.  :031:
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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #2 on: March 14, 2022, 09:08:09 pm
    March 14, 2022, 09:08:09 pm
    Well I just checked on Fowler's honda and honda parts .com and it seems that one air filter is listed for all models both MK1 2013 & MK2 from 2017  .
    So I would feel comfortable buying any of the Hi Flo or genuine air filters.
    Just seen this pop up on a quick search...
    https://www.mileskingsport.com/shop/detail/honda-vfr800-vtec-vfr-new-air-filter/17210-mcw-d01

    JT

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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #3 on: March 14, 2022, 09:33:27 pm
    March 14, 2022, 09:33:27 pm
    Many thanks Skids & JT.

    My reasoning was that if the Hiflo will do the job for £15 then why pay 3 times as much for the Honda part.  Then again if I was to spend that sort of money for only £4 more I could buy a reusable K&N.  Any performance gains are not really of interest as with around 100bhp the bike is powerful enough.  To help make the decision I wondered if anyone on the forum had experience of either the Hiflo or K&N air filters.

    For an oil filter I would only ever buy a genuine Honda filter and run the bike on fully synthetic oil,  I believe that anything else may well be a false economy.   

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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 12:45:31 am
    March 15, 2022, 12:45:31 am
    Well I bought a Hi Flo for my MK2 and was well pleased with the quality...put it this way if it came in a honda box you wouldn't know the difference IMO..
    I've seen all sorts of horrible vids showing dirt and grit on the engine side of airboxes whilst using KN type filters.
    Oiling the filters can be a guessing game regarding under/over oiling.
    So I've always stuck with using an OEM type dry filter and just change it periodically..YMMV
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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #5 on: March 15, 2022, 10:30:47 am
    March 15, 2022, 10:30:47 am
    I almost agree with Skids.Since we use our bikes for general purpose and not for dragster or racing and we dont want to sacrifice our engine life for performance,the best filters are the original and those high air flow filter companies that refer on their techincal specs they offer the same protection as the original.

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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #6 on: March 15, 2022, 10:36:40 am
    March 15, 2022, 10:36:40 am
    Almost.  :008:

    I suppose price must come into it but I do try to ensure safety and reliability form the basis of my decisions. Price is a little further down the list, though for some it must come higher up.
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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #7 on: March 17, 2022, 10:07:36 am
    March 17, 2022, 10:07:36 am
    Thanks Guys

    You have helped me make a decision.  For the Air Filter I have ordered a HiFlo unit and for the oil filter I have ordered a genuine Honda along with Motul 7100 10w30 fully synthetic oil.  Just waiting for the bits to arrive now.

    Changing the oil looks reasonably straight forward but changing the air filter looks to be a total pain.  At least with the fairings off I will be able to fit the quickshifter at the same time!  :005:

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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #8 on: March 17, 2022, 11:53:35 am
    March 17, 2022, 11:53:35 am
    That's exactly the same filter combo that I use..
    You don't say what the mileage is on your bike but you might want to consider changing the plugs whilst you under the tank, that's what I am going to do.
    It seems pointless to split the jobs up given the pain of removing all the panels twice..
    My Mk2 has only just under 10k miles on it but it's a '16 plate bike so I'm gonna bite the bullet at the end of this year
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    Re: AIR FILTER FOR 2017/18
    Reply #9 on: March 17, 2022, 12:17:33 pm
    March 17, 2022, 12:17:33 pm
    Hi JT

    Mine is a late 2017 bike that's done 14K miles.  The handbook recommends inspection at 16K and replacement at 32K but take your point about replacing them while everything is off.  Will price them up and then make a decision.

     


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