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  • Offline Goon   gb

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    Points to watch for.
    on: March 26, 2022, 04:21:05 pm
    March 26, 2022, 04:21:05 pm
    Hello all, currently looking to replace my GSXS1000 and the Crossrunner is on my list of alternatives. Many bikes for sale out there in different guises - Full/half luggage kits, heated grips, satnav etc. Just wondered if there were any problem areas to look for, I am interested in the 2017 on models mostly having 5 - 15000 miles on them.

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #1 on: March 26, 2022, 06:20:50 pm
    March 26, 2022, 06:20:50 pm
    Hi Goon.  :158:

    It's a VFR.

    No worries.  :028:

    Seriously, any bike can be fooked by someone who doesn't look after it, so as long as it is clear it has been cared for, you should be able to rest easy.

    Have you yet ridden one yet?
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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #2 on: March 26, 2022, 06:45:55 pm
    March 26, 2022, 06:45:55 pm
    Hi Goon

    Having recently bought mine, you are probably doing everything I did before taking the plunge.  Watch You Tube reviews, read reviews on Google and have a good look through this forum for any potential issues with the bike.

    I wish I had done that before buying my BMW G310GS brand new which turned out to be full of faults backed up by an unhelpful and arrogant dealer.

    The Crossrunner with its V4 engine is a superbly engineered bike, nicely balanced and gets the compromise between comfort & handling just right.  The only issue for a shorty is the wide but comfortable seat but this can be sorted with lowering links and dropping the front forks through the yokes.  The only other thing to look out for is the 16K service as it requires an air filter change which means taking the fairings and tank off so dealer service costs will add up unless you do it yourself.

    I see the appeal of the 2017 on model as you get the adjustable screen and it was the last update before the models end of life.  There were many different pack options offered by Honda which will explain why the spec of the bikes vary.  Mine had the full adventure pack which was an extra £2K+ new but now other bolt on extras are being offered cheaply by Honda dealers as they can no longer offer them with new bikes.  I got 50% off a genuine Honda quick shifter and am looking at a similar reduction for an Akrapovic.

    Prices will vary as they always do so set your budget and get the best bike you can for the money.

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #3 on: March 26, 2022, 08:15:46 pm
    March 26, 2022, 08:15:46 pm
    *Originally Posted by Kalamity Ken [+]
    Hi Goon

    Having recently bought mine, you are probably doing everything I did before taking the plunge.  Watch You Tube reviews, read reviews on Google and have a good look through this forum for any potential issues with the bike.

    I wish I had done that before buying my BMW G310GS brand new which turned out to be full of faults backed up by an unhelpful and arrogant dealer.

    The Crossrunner with its V4 engine is a superbly engineered bike, nicely balanced and gets the compromise between comfort & handling just right.  The only issue for a shorty is the wide but comfortable seat but this can be sorted with lowering links and dropping the front forks through the yokes.  The only other thing to look out for is the 16K service as it requires an air filter change which means taking the fairings and tank off so dealer service costs will add up unless you do it yourself.

    I see the appeal of the 2017 on model as you get the adjustable screen and it was the last update before the models end of life.  There were many different pack options offered by Honda which will explain why the spec of the bikes vary.  Mine had the full adventure pack which was an extra £2K+ new but now other bolt on extras are being offered cheaply by Honda dealers as they can no longer offer them with new bikes.  I got 50% off a genuine Honda quick shifter and am looking at a similar reduction for an Akrapovic.

    Prices will vary as they always do so set your budget and get the best bike you can for the money.

    That's excellent advice there m8.  :028:

    The QS is a great piece of kit, I love mine.

    The air filter is a 12k mile replacement. The expensive service for the 2017+ is at 24k miles with the valve check.
    98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles, 08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles, 15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (all sold)
    14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
    18 VFR800X - 16,000 miles
    01 VFR800 Fi-1 - 0 miles (yet)

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #4 on: March 26, 2022, 08:35:28 pm
    March 26, 2022, 08:35:28 pm
    Just a tip for those looking for exhaust upgrade don't overlook Arrow cans. 2/3 the price of Akro.

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #5 on: March 26, 2022, 10:16:54 pm
    March 26, 2022, 10:16:54 pm
    The post '15 crossie doesn't even have the rec/reg and stator issues the older vfr's suffer from!
    Stop making sense

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #6 on: March 26, 2022, 11:41:35 pm
    March 26, 2022, 11:41:35 pm
    *Originally Posted by Skids [+]
    That's excellent advice there m8.  :028:

    The QS is a great piece of kit, I love mine.

    The air filter is a 12k mile replacement. The expensive service for the 2017+ is at 24k miles with the valve check.
    24k miles for a shim check, thats pretty good. Lowering links I've done them before nut and bolt job. Not ridden one yet, the one at the dealer yesterday had not been through the workshop and they wouldnt let me ride it, it had been lowered I could get both feet flat on the ground. Its either one of these or a BMW 1200RS.

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #7 on: March 26, 2022, 11:49:56 pm
    March 26, 2022, 11:49:56 pm
    *Originally Posted by Haddo [+]
    Just a tip for those looking for exhaust upgrade don't overlook Arrow cans. 2/3 the price of Akro.
    Have an Arrow pipe on my Suzuki, good value, nice finish and easy to fit, well recommended.

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #8 on: March 27, 2022, 09:03:37 am
    March 27, 2022, 09:03:37 am
    *Originally Posted by Goon [+]
    Its either one of these or a BMW 1200RS.

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    No choice then!  :001: :152:
    98 VFR800 - 130,000 miles, 08 VFR800 - 76,000 miles, 15 VFR800X - 44,000 miles (all sold)
    14 VFR1200 - 20,000 miles
    18 VFR800X - 16,000 miles
    01 VFR800 Fi-1 - 0 miles (yet)

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    Re: Points to watch for.
    Reply #9 on: March 27, 2022, 09:27:42 am
    March 27, 2022, 09:27:42 am
    *Originally Posted by Skids [+]
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    No choice then!  :001: :152:

    Agree with Skids, research reliability on BMW motorcycles in the last 5 years.  A motorbiking friend who is also an IAM instructor bought a new BMW R1200R in 2017, he experienced the same dealer arrogance that I did and had to have a major engine rebuild at 7000 miles.  If you do your research you will find he is not alone.

    Not the same bike but one I have had direct experience of have a look at this link https://www.g310rforum.com/forums/2017-bmw-g310-r-gs-complaints-issues-problems.337/ read through the massive list of issues & problems with the BMW 310 then look for a similar forum for 1200 and then decide whether this is the make of bike you want to live with.